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John J. Roberts

Male 1841 - 1916  (74 years)


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  • Name John J. Roberts  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    Born 31 Oct 1841  Bradley, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    AFN 3GPT-21 
    Residence 30 Mar 1851  Oldbury, Worcestershire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Emigration 10 Jan 1852  Liverpool, Lancashire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    John S. Higbee Company on the Kennebec 
    Immigration 19 Mar 1852  New Orleans, Orleans Co, Louisiana, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    John S. Higbee Company on the Kennebec 
    Residence 14 Jun 1860  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 25 Aug 1870  American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Laborer 
    Occupation 4 Jun 1880  American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Laborer 
    Occupation 12 Jun 1900  American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Engineer; Saw Mill 
    Occupation 19 Apr 1910  American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Laborer; Odd Jobs 
    Died 9 Feb 1916  American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Cause: Hemiplegia (Stroke) 
    Buried 12 Feb 1916  American Fork City Cemetery, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I3192  default
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2009 

    Father William Roberts, Jr.,   b. Abt 1815, Kingswinford, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 5 Jun 1880, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 65 years) 
    Mother Selina Harper,   c. 27 Dec 1818, Brierly Hill, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Jul 1852, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 33 years) 
    Marriage Banns 13 Jan 1839  Holy Trinity Church, Wordsley, Kingswinford Parish, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Banns 20 Jan 1839  Holy Trinity Church, Wordsley, Kingswinford Parish, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Banns 27 Jan 1839  Holy Trinity Church, Wordsley, Kingswinford Parish, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 3 Feb 1839  Holy Trinity Church, Wordsley, Kingswinford Parish, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [11, 12, 13
    Marriage License 3 Feb 1839  Kingswinford, Staffordshire Co, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    p 79, #158 
    Notes 
    Married:
    • MARRIAGE: William and Selina were married in the Holy Trinity Church in Wordsley, a village in the south suburbs of Kingswinford in the West Midlands.

      1841 ENGLAND CENSUS: There is a possible match for a Wm Roberts (age 20) occupied as a "Furnace Man" on Mill Lane in Kingswinford, Staffordshire, however the other two residents are Eliza (age 25) and Mary (age 15). William was later employed in the U.S. in "gas works," and therefore this might be the correct household. A further indicator that this might be a good match is that adjacent neighbors are the Talbot family. By the 1851 census the Roberts live adjacent to the Talbot Hotel in Kingswinford.

      1841 CENSUS: Searches have been performed through name indexes at ancestry.com for 'William Roberts' & 'William Robert' born between 1810 & 1820 in Staffordshire and Worcestershire. There are no matches of a residence with a William and Selina Roberts. One record was identified in Lancashire with a William Roberts (age 25), a rope maker, and Selina (age 20), but their firstborn son was James (age 10 mos). To date we have not been able to identify whether a James was in fact born to this family. Also searched ALL pages of Bradley, Staffordshire. Will need to scan ALL pages of Dudley, Worcestershire (40 districts).

      SALUDA DISASTER: There is a Missouri state historical marker at Lexington, Missouri, regarding the steamboat Saluda disaster that occurred 9 Apr 1852. Listed on the marker are the deaths of William and Salena Roberts, in addition to 4 sons. This is incorrect, since all of them survived the disaster, although Selina died 3 months later. The marker reads:

      Geo Location: N 39 11.073 W 093 52.801
      THE STEAMBOAT SALUDA DISASTER
      APRIL 9, 1852
      In early April 1852 the aging side-wheeler steamboat Saluda churned up the Missouri River from St. Louis, bound for Kanesville (Council Bluffs), Iowa. Unable to push past the Lexington Bend due to ice flows and strong currents, it docked at Lexington's Upper Landing. Among 175 passengers still on board were people heading for various up-river towns, men bound for California gold fields, and about 75 Mormon emigrants, mostly Europeans, hoping to join wagon trains going to Utah Territory. On Good Friday morning, April 9, Captain Francis Belt vowed to "round the bend or blow this boat to hell." At about 7:30 a.m., the Saluda eased from the landing. Before the paddle-wheels made three revolutions, the red hot boilers exploded. The sound was heard two miles away. Passengers, crew, baggage, timbers, chimneys, and boiler scraps were blown ashore or into the river. The Saluda's bell landed high up the river bank, as did a 600 pound safe with a yellow spotted dog (killed) leashed to it. Two-thirds of the boat, everything above the lower deck and extending back to the wheelhouse, was blown away. Currents moved the Saluda's remains back against the levee, its stern section underneath several feet of water. Estimates of the dead and missing vary from 26 to 135. Best eye-witness accounts say about 75 were killed or lost and presumed dead, and three dozen injured. Captain Belt was killed. Only three officers survived. Lexington's shocked citizens rallied heroically to rescue victims, nurse the wounded, raise funds for those who lost everything, and find homes for orphans. Twenty-one victims were buried in Lexington that terrible Friday. Most survivors quickly found other transportation and continued their journeys. The Saluda disaster ranks as one of the worst steamboat tragedies, perhaps the worst, on the Missouri River. It caused the U.S. Congress that year to enact new operating rules and stricter inspection standards for steamboats

      -----------------------------------
      Those who lost their lives in the Saluda disaster
      Lois Locke Bailey*
      Mary Ann Bailey*
      Capt. Francis T. Belt
      Jonathan Blackburn
      J. Brick
      William J. Bridges
      Jonathan Brock
      Daican Campbell*
      Jane Campbell*
      Neile Campbell*
      James Campbell*
      Josiah Clancy
      Helen Dunbar*
      Euphermia Dunbar*
      Franklin Lorenzo Dunbar*
      John Evans
      Farmers on the Saluda (5)
      Mr. Foleyfisher
      Lewis Goerette
      Laura Henry*
      Mr. Kramer
      Mrs. Kramer
      Charles S. LaBarge
      Mr. Laynell
      Mr. Legatt
      N. McCallister
      William Mitchell*
      Preston Mitchell*
      Josephine Mitchell*
      Mr. Nash
      R. Nash
      William Roberts
      Selina Roberts
      Sons of Roberts (4)
      William Rowland, Sr.*
      William Rowland, Jr.*
      David Rowland*
      Robert Rowland*
      Sarah Rowland*
      John Sargent*
      Joseph Sargent*
      E. Shaffer
      Lewis Tebor
      S. Wag
      Wayley
      Sister Whitaker*
      Mary Gleadhall Whitehead*
      George Whitehead*
      Catherine Whitehead*
      George Whitehead (son)*
      Isabel Whitehead*

      ** Denotes Latter-Day Saints
    Family ID F1093  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth Ellen Conder,   b. 11 Nov 1850, Salem, Utah Co, Utah Territory, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Jun 1919, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years) 
    Married 3 Feb 1867  of Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    +1. Sarah Ellen Roberts,   b. 28 Aug 1868, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Nov 1916  (Age 48 years)
     2. John William Roberts,   b. 23 Jan 1870, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Oct 1950  (Age 80 years)
     3. Edward Roberts,   b. 22 Mar 1873, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 May 1951  (Age 78 years)
     4. Joseph Pierce Roberts,   b. 28 Jul 1875, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Jan 1935  (Age 59 years)
    +5. William Roberts,   b. 19 Jan 1879, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Feb 1942, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 63 years)
     6. Selena May Roberts,   b. 28 Sep 1882, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1954  (Age 71 years)
     7. Mary Emma Roberts,   b. 19 Apr 1885, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Jun 1969, Pleasant Grove, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years)
     8. Rose Ann Miller Roberts,   b. 2 Apr 1886, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Dec 1953  (Age 67 years)
    +9. Lorenzo Snow "Ren" Roberts,   b. 14 Jul 1889, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Mar 1964, Provo, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years)
     10. Rachel Elizabeth Roberts,   b. 28 Jul 1891, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Mar 1965  (Age 73 years)
     11. Ermina Roberts,   b. 16 Aug 1895, American Fork, Utah Co, Utah, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Feb 1972  (Age 76 years)
    Last Modified 31 Jan 2009 
    Family ID F23  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Photos
    Portrait
    Portrait
    The only known photograph of John J. Roberts
    American Fork Roberts Home
    American Fork Roberts Home
    The 'old' Roberts home that was located on what is approximately 200 N Center St in American Fork, Utah. Pictured in the center is Elizabeth Ellen CONDER Roberts. To her left and right are unknown individuals

    Documents
    1851 British Census
    1851 British Census
    1851 British Census: Selina HARPER Roberts family; The father, William, had already emigrated to the United States at the time of the census; Listed are Selina and her children: William, John, Edward, Ephraim, & Joseph; Also in the household is Elizabeth PITTS Harper, listed as a widow
    1860 U.S. Census
    1860 U.S. Census
    South Eastern Division, St. Louis 10th Ward, St. Louis, Missouri: "William Roberts" family
    1870 U.S. Census [page 2]
    1870 U.S. Census [page 2]
    American Fork, Utah, Utah (620KB): "Thomas Shelley" and "John Roberts" families; also in the Shelley household is an unknown "Eliza"
    Kennebec Passenger List [19 Mar 1852]
    Kennebec Passenger List [19 Mar 1852]
    Passenger List of the Kennebec, arriving New Orleans 19 Mar 1852. Listed are Selina Roberts and children: William, John, Edward, Ephraim, and Joseph. Research by Chad G. Nichols
    1880 U.S. Census
    1880 U.S. Census
    American Fork, Utah, Utah: John J. Roberts family
    1900 U.S. Census
    1900 U.S. Census
    American Fork, Utah, Utah: "John J Roberts" family
    1910 U.S. Census
    1910 U.S. Census
    2nd North Street, American Fork, Utah, Utah: "John J Roberts" family
    Death Certificate [9 Feb 1916]
    Death Certificate [9 Feb 1916]
    Death Certificate of John J. Roberts. Research by Chad G. Nichols
    Funeral Card [12 Feb 1916]
    Funeral Card [12 Feb 1916]
    Funeral card of John J. Roberts

    Headstones
    Headstone
    Headstone
    Headstone of John J. Roberts & Elizabeth Ellen Conder

  • Notes 
    • BIRTH: Grave Marker indicates birthdate 8 Nov 1835. The 1851 British Census lists John's birthplace at Bradley, Staffordshire. Ancestral File lists birthplace at Oldbury, Staffordshire, England. Death certificate lists birthdate 15 Oct 1838

      MILITARY: John J Roberts is listed in the Pension Files for participating in the Indian Wars

      MIGRATION: John is not identified in the Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel Index although his first daughter was born in 1868 at Utah

      BURIAL: Death certificate lists burial date 11 Feb 1916

  • Sources 
    1. [S756] Nichols Online Library, Digital Documents Researched and Scanned by Chad Nichols & Relatives, Nichols, Chad G., (Catalogue of over 40,000 relatives with more than 5,000 of them having documentation to support their place in the family tree. Some recent generation surnames include Anderson, Broman, Campbell, Cloward, Conder, Dutson, Ericksen, Farmer, Holyoak, Kump, Kylen, Mendenhall, Nichols, Nielson, O'Donnell, Richardson, Roberts, Shelley, Stone, and Walker. Most ancestors are from England, Denmark, Sweden, and Germany. [online] www.nicholslibrary.org 7783 S 4950 W West Jordan, UT 84081 USA) (Reliability: 3).
      1851 British Census - 002432
      Kennebec Passenger List - 003976
      1860 U.S. Census - 000369
      1870 U.S. Census - 000366
      1880 U.S. Census - 000203
      1900 U.S. Census - 000630
      1910 U.S. Census - 000633
      Photo - 001078
      Funeral Card - 001079
      Grave Marker - 000531
      Death Certificate - 000348

    2. [S177] 1851 England Census [database online], Ancestry.com, (Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1851. Data imaged from the National Archives, London, England. The 1851 Census for England was taken on the night of 30 March 1851), P 25 (Reliability: 3).
      93 Talbot Street, District 3c, Oldbury, Worcestershire, England (immediately next door to the Talbot Hotel): Linia Roberts, Married, age 33, Boot Binder, born at Brierly Hill, Worcestershire; William, age 8, Scholar, born at Dudley, Worcestershire; John, age 7, Scholar, born at Bradley, Staffordshire; Edward, age 5, Scholar, born at Oldbury, Worcestershire; Ephraim, age 2, Scholar, born at Oldbury, Worcestershire; Joseph, age 1, born at Oldbury, Worcestershire; Elizabeth Harper, Mother, Widow, age 79, born at Bilston, Staffordshire

    3. [S283] Mormon Immigration Index , The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Genealogical Department., (Salt Lake City : Genealogical Society of Utah, 2000 [CD-ROM]) (Reliability: 3).
      John S. Higbee Company on the Kennebec, departed Liverpool 10 Jan 1852, arrived New Orleans 19 Mar 1852; Sources: BMR, Book #1044, pp. 11-29 (FHL #025,690); Customs #130 (FHL #200,169); Lists Selina Roberts and children: William, John, Edward, Ephraim, and Joseph; Lists arrival the "end of March" at St. Louis on the Pride of the West

    4. [S408] 1860 United States Federal Census, United States. Census Office. 8th Census, 1860, (Washington [District of Columbia] : The National Archives, [19--] Microfilm of original records in the National Archives, Washington, D.C.), P. 97 (Reliability: 3).
      South Eastern Division, St. Louis 10th Ward, St. Louis, Missouri - William Roberts" Family:
      --William, age 45, Gas Manufat., value of real estate "500," value of personal estate "100," birthplace England
      --Emma, age 40, birthplace England
      --William, age 20, Sawyer, birthplace England
      --John, age 19, birthplace England
      --Edward, age 17, birthplace England
      --Ephraim, age 14, birthplace England
      --Joseph, age 12, birthplace England
      --Sarah, age 9, birthplace England
      --Salina, age 7, birthplace England
      --Lewellen, age 2, birthplace Missouri
      --Edwin, age 4 mos, birthplace Missouri

    5. [S229] 1870 United States Federal Census, United States. Bureau of the Census. 9th Census, 1870, (Washington [District of Columbia] : The National Archives, [19--] Microfilm of original records in the National Archives, Washington, D.C.) (Reliability: 3).
      American Fork, Utah, Utah, 25 Aug 1870, p. 9:
      --"John Roberts," age 28, Laborer, birthplace Missouri, foreign parentage, male citizen of the U.S.
      --"Elizabeth," age 19, Keeping House, birthplace Utah, foreign parentage, unable to write
      --"Sarah," age 2, birthplace Utah
      --next-door neighbors are "Thomas Shelley" (Elizabeth's step uncle) and "Edward Conder" (Elizabeth's parents)
      [Research by Chad G. Nichols]

    6. [S117] 1880 United States Federal Census, United States. Bureau of the Census. 10th Census, 1880, (Washington [District of Columbia] : The National Archives, [19--] Microfilm of original records in the National Archives, Washington, D.C.), PG 12 (Reliability: 3).
      American Fork City Precinct, Utah, Utah: Supervisor's Dist 136; Enumeration Dist 88; John J. Roberts, age 38, laborer, birthplace England, parentage England; Elizabeth Ellen CONDER Roberts, age 29, keeping home, birthplace Utah; parentage England; Sarah Ellen, age 11, attended school within the year, birthplace Utah; John William, age 9, attended school within the year, birthplace Utah; Edward, age 7, attended school within the year, birthplace Utah; Joseph Pierce, age 5, attended school within the year, birthplace Utah; William, age 2, birthplace Utah

    7. [S368] 1900 United States Federal Census, United States. Census Office. 12th Census, 1900, (Washington [District of Columbia] : The National Archives, [19--] Microfilm of original records in the National Archives, Washington, D.C.), SHEET 15A, SUP DIST 273, ENUM DIST 154 (Reliability: 3).
      American Fork, Utah, Utah: "John J Roberts," born Dec 1841, age 59, married 28 yrs, birthplace England, parentage England, immigration 1851, Engineer, Saw Mill, freely owns own; "Elizabeth," born Nov 1851, age 49, married 28 yrs, 11 children, 11 surviving children, birthplace Utah, parentage England; "Joseph," born Jul 1875, age 24, birthplace Utah, Day Laborer; "William," born Jan 1879, age 21, birthplace Utah, Sheep Hearder; "Alena," born Aug 1881, age 19, birthplace Utah; "Mary E," born Jul 1883, age 16, birthplace Utah, at schoo; "Rose," born Apr 1884, age 14, birthplace Utah, at school; "Lorenzo," born Jul 1888, age 11, birthplace Utah, at school; "Ray," born Aug 1890, age 9, birthplace Utah; "Mina," born Jul 1894, age 5, birthplace Utah

    8. [S140] 1910 United States Federal Census, United States. Census Office. 13th Census, 1910, (Washington [District of Columbia] : The National Archives, [19--] Microfilm of original records in the National Archives, Washington, D.C.), SHEET 20A, SUP DIST UTAH, ENUM DIST 184 (Reliability: 3).
      2nd North Street, American Fork, Utah, Utah: "John J Roberts," age 71, 1st marriage, married 42 yrs, birthplace England, father's birthplace Ma?, mother's birthplace England, immigration 1864, Laborer, Odd jobs; "Elizabeth," age 59, 1st marriage, married 42 yrs, 11 children, 11 surviving children, birthplace Utah, parentage England; "Edward," age 35, birthplace Utah, Sheep business; "Rose," age 22, birthplace Utah; "Lorenzo," age 19, birthplace Utah, Laborer, Odd jobs; "Mina," age 13, birthplace Utah

    9. [S71] Death Certificate or Record (Reliability: 3).
      John J Roberts d. 9 Feb 1916 American Fork, Utah; bur. 11 Feb 1916 American Fork, Utah; Cause of death Hemiplegia (paralysis effecting only one side of the body)

    10. [S415] Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998).

    11. [S756] Nichols Online Library, Digital Documents Researched and Scanned by Chad Nichols & Relatives, Nichols, Chad G., (Catalogue of over 40,000 relatives with more than 5,000 of them having documentation to support their place in the family tree. Some recent generation surnames include Anderson, Broman, Campbell, Cloward, Conder, Dutson, Ericksen, Farmer, Holyoak, Kump, Kylen, Mendenhall, Nichols, Nielson, O'Donnell, Richardson, Roberts, Shelley, Stone, and Walker. Most ancestors are from England, Denmark, Sweden, and Germany. [online] www.nicholslibrary.org 7783 S 4950 W West Jordan, UT 84081 USA) (Reliability: 3).
      Marriage Announcements - 003232
      Marriage Record - 003231

    12. [S411] Marriage Certificate or Record (Reliability: 3).
      1839. Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Kingswinford in the County of Stafford
      #158. 3rd February 1839, William Roberts, Of full Age, Bachelor, Cordwainer, of Brettell Lane, son of William Roberts, Laborer
      & Selina Harper, Minor, Spinster, of Brettell Lane, daughter of Benjamin Harper, Puddler
      Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Edw. Davies Curate
      This marriage was solemnized between us, William Roberts, Selina Harper her [X] mark
      in the Presence of us, Thomas Evans, Mary Willies
      (Transcription by Chad G. Nichols)

    13. [S535] Parish Registers and Miscellaneous Papers for Holy Trinity Church, Kingswinford Parish, Staffordshire, 1640-1920, Church of England. Holy Trinity Church (Kingswinford, Staffordshire); Church of England. St. Mary's Church (Kingswinford, Stafford); Dudley Public Libraries. Archives and Local History Department, (Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1987 [FHL BRITISH 1470764 Items 2-6, 1470765-70, 1470771 Item 1]) (Reliability: 3).
      (Research by Chad G. Nichols)